Current Vegetable Seed Stock
This is condensed, just a list of vegetables / herbs and which varieties I currently have for sowing at TUE - I'll produce a detailed spreadsheet itemised by packet with source, quantity and date info, soon, and say when I have so anyone interested can have it. A very few have 'use by' dates of 2006 but since I store my seeds dry and cool those should still have a decent germination rate, the vast majority should be viable in 2007 and many in 2008.
I've been saving seed for the last 3 years and wish to very actively encourage the TUE project to do this for 3 main reasons:
- it's essential to being sustainable
- it can save a lot of money
- I think I may have some 'sports' which could be worth progressing
Hybrid seed (especially F1 which are crosses between two different parents) needs to be avoided because it doesn't breed true, I think I only have 1 or 2 hybrid seed types. For most vegetables this is no real problem but for a few it means using less optimal varieties. I've indicated own saved seed with a ! after the variety name, where I have both bought and saved seed I mention twice, once with and once without the !
Dylan has some of the seeds (because I'm hoping he will be sowing them before I arrive in mid March) so I'm awaiting his email with info on those since I didn't note them down.
There are over 150 different vegetable seeds here but we will be needing to get a few more (about 20 or so). I mention this after any particular vegetable where I think there is a lack and (soon) I will summarise the shopping list here:
http://utopiaexperiment.pbwiki.com/Seeds%20etc%20to%20get
I would most welcome comments and suggestions, I'd really like a small team of us to get together and plan:
- what we grow,
- timetables for sowing, planting, cropping,
- use of protected growing and 'season extension',
- what methods and techniques we should use.
So if you'd like to be involved please drop me an email. We'll need someones at TUE most of the year who can take responsibility for managing things agricultural. I think it is very important, possibly the most important step that TUE can make to being sustainable, that we make a decent fist of feeding ourselves. It would be great if you already know a bit about growing crops but a keen interest and willingness to learn and contribute is more important.
Beans, Borlotti / for dried use: Lingua di Fuoco (climbing); Lingua di Fuoco! (climbing) x5 variants!
Get: might look for an additional variety or two, perhaps try chick peas too.
Beans, Broad: Aquadulce!, Aquadulce (all sown already at TUE); Optima!; The Sutton! (few); Crimson Flowered
Get: need enough for at least additional 1 x 5m double row, prob 2 diff vars.
Beans, French Climbing: Cobra!; Blue Lake!; sports x2!
Get: at least 1 other variety, maybe a yellow podded?
Beans, French Dwarf: Annabelle; Kinghorn Wax (yellow); Ferrari; mixed!
Beans, Runner: (Red, White, Pink = flower) Mergoles! (W); Celebration (P); Celebration! (P); Red Knight (R); Red Knight! (R); Polestar! (R); Scarlet Emperor! (R); Val's! (R, don't know original variety); mixed! (parentage less certain, lol)
Beans, Soy: Envy; Envy!
Beetroot: Choggia; Egyptian; Golden
Get: more yellow variety (have only 40 seeds); Bolthardy; main season detroit type or similar.
Broccoli, Purple Sprouting: Red Arrow (mid); Rudolph (early); Late
Broccoli, Rapa (turnip greens, a slightly bitter, tasty, broccoli): Quarantino (40 day)
Brussels Sprout: Evesham Special (Oct-Jan); Seven Hills (Jan-Mar)
Get: alternatives, neither of above are wonderful, non-F1 choices are limited
Cabbage, Headed: none
Get: some
Cabbage, Red: Red Drumhead; Schwarzkopf 2
Cabbage, Spring: Offenham 2; Wintergreen
Cabbage, Winter Headed: January King
Calabrese (green, summer / autumn broccoli): Autumn Spear (Sept-Nov)
Get: AS is the best non-F1 I've tried, try to find another good one
Carrot, early: Early Scarlet Horn
Get: an Amsterdam Forcing variety or similar
Carrot, maincrop: Red Elephant; St James Intermediate; Norfolk Giant 2
Get: Yellowstone, possibly another 'safe' variety
Cauliflower: Snowball X (July-Sept); Alverda (green, Nov-Dec); Evita (may be F1, May-June)
Get: a certain non-F1 or two for April-July overwintered use
Celeriac: Monarch
Get: another to compare
Chard (aka swiss Chard, Seakale Beet, closely related to beetroot but spinach like in usage): White Silver 2; Lucullus
Get: a coloured variety to please the children, lol
Chicoria (bitter-ish italian salad / stir fry that survives winter): red; white
Chicory: Wallonne
Get: a forcing variety for reliable winter use
Chilli: DTB's mixed Hot
Chinese Cabbage: none
Get: one
Courgette: Romanesco; Nero di Milano (5 seeds only); Ronde de Nice; Striato di Napoli; Bianco di Sicilia
Get: only have 8 seeds left of Ronde, prob get another round variety for stuffing.
Cucumber: Marketmore (outdoor, ridge)
Get: I don't know of any other outdoor non-F1 variety that comes close, would like a 2nd variety, any ideas?
Endive: Pancalieri
Kale: Tuscan Black; Tuscan Black!; Russian Red!
Get: Pentland Brig; a dwarf curled variety
Leek: Musselburg (late season); Carentan 2 (mid season)
Get: 1 mid-late (Natan?), 1 early-mid
Lettuce: Lobjoits cos!; Lobjoits cos; Bionda degli Ortelani (pale cos); Winter Density; Rougette de Midi; Rougette de Midi!; italian red frilled (need to find name)
Get: not thought yet, a round crisphead would be good
Marrow: none
Get: 1 or 2
Mustard: Giant Red (good for salads and stir fries)
Mizuna: have own and bought seed, this is a very excellent salad and stir fry veg, survives well in winter.
Onions, bulb: Ailsa Craig Prizewinner, Bianca di Maggio, Rossa di Toscana, Red Baron, Bedfordshire Champion
Get: think at least 1 other 'safe' maincrop needed (RB and BC seed may be getting a bit old)
Onions, Salad: White Lisbon Winter Hardy; Shimonita; North Holland Blood Red Redmate
Get: 'normal' spring sown variety
Pak Choi: Canton White
Parsnip: Lancer! (smaller, early, roots)
Get: at least 2 maincrop varieties
Pea, mangetout / sugar snap: Sugar Snap; Sugar Lord!; mixed! (Carouby de Maussanne / Sugar Lord / Sugar Bon / Sugar Snap)
Get: more Carouby de M. and Sugar Lord if can find.
Pea, shelling: Spring (early), Feltham First (early)
Get: a couple of maincrop varieties (Hursts Green Shaft, Prince Albert?)
Pepper: Mini Sweet
Pumpkin / Squash: Marina di Choggia; Mixed from seeds of Italy; ?saved!
Get: 1 storable pumpkin and 1 butternut squash
Raddichio: Rossa di Treviso (tardivo); Rossa di Treviso!
Get: possibly another if one appeals
Radish, summer: French Breakfast; Saxa 2
Get: several more until we save our own seed
Radish, autumn / winter: Ostergruss Rosa 2; White Icicle
Get: maybe another 1 or 2
Scorzonera / Salsify: Duplex
Get: possibly another if it really appeals.
Shallot: Poitou; Pearl!
Spinach: Monarch
Get: a perpetual variety, possibly a different annual variety
Sugar Beet: none
Get: must find a source of non-hybrid
Swede: Ruby
Get: second variety
Tomato, outdoor: Red Alert! (the earliest IMO); Roma VF (plum); Pink Cherry; Tamina (potato leaved); Gardener's Delight; Harbinger
Get: another plum variety
Tomato, greenhouse: none
Turnip: Aramis; Snowball
Get: short on Aramis, more of that and / or another variety
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